situation since the government shut down about 12, 13 days ago. >> a great point. 22 days, the president has had zero contact with pelosi or schumer. what is the sweet spot, chad? you're talking to people up there. the president said earlier, there were reports that $2.5 billion might be a red line. is there a sweet spot for both sides that maybe we can see some kind of resolution the next four or five days? >> this is where we're starting to hear chatter last week that bipartisan senators thought there might be a deal on daca. now the government shut down is real, government workers are off the job. there's no holiday recess, members are coming back to session, that might help force the issue. sometimes you have unconnected issues that help resolve these partial government shut downs. nobody thought that anybody was going to come out of this until nancy pelosi gets control of the gavel, tomorrow afternoon,