narrative that "it's everybody." there are outliers. you can build upon that. do ever think that a maga rally is going to be a fun place for jim acosta? no. but i think those moments are good. i think it's good for him to highlight it, as well. to keep up with the kind of bluster and reputation for how difficult it is for him there. he could have not mentioned it. also, giving the finger and some of the obscenities that are screamed are very different. i would rather get the finger then have that woman scream. that seems polite. >> melissa: as a recognizable fox news person who walks around new york city, you can sometimes have people be relatively hostile. i think it's -- i don't love what they are doing to him there. it looks very difficult. >> jessica: charlie says democracy is noisy. >> dagen: i have said for years, being in the journalism business, reporters of the worst