don't know what he can offer in this case, the disparity between what lany davis, cohen's lawyer said versus giuliani, it's almost like they are talk about two completely different cases when you hear both of them talk and you have one of our guys, alan dershowitz who we have all of the time seems to side with rudy and the president, how can there be such a disparity between cohen's lawyer and president's lawyer on the issue. >> it's like looking between asia and america right now. i'm not sure at this point. i think it's bored out over time obviously, the president has made his point clear over time as rudy giuliani has that there was no collusion and he's made that point for 2 plus years now, 3 years almost. that's going to be the line they will stick to. but lenny davis is new in this episode of the trump administration, we will see what he brings to the table at this