i turned over millions of documents. it is unnerving for us lawyers to think of waiving an available privilege but i think it might deserve the message pretty well for the president overall, which is, even though he doesn't like this probe, he's willing to be cooperative and give them what they want. >> jason: james, is giuliani right? if mcgahn had evidence of a crime or something going on in the white house, he wouldn't be here, right? >> i think is a pretty good assumption. i think that's probably right. i hesitate only because rudy might change his comments any minute. but overall, i think you've got this one right. >> jason: scott, do you think giuliani made the right assessment and his comments that he made tonight? >> i don't think he knows what he's talking about in the sense that he doesn't know what mcgahn said for those 30 hours, neither does trump. they know what his lawyers said. but the fact that he even took a lawyer in shows that he was concerned about not only maintaining his integrity but also the fact that he did have a concern about donald trump setting him up as the fall guy,