adversaries and the sitting president? does that concern you at all? >> it does but there are plenty of things that concern me in that same realm. the president leaking intelligence that we got from israeli sources to the russian ambassador in the oval office. whatever happened to him in two hours in helsinki. this, i think -- >> jason: why does that concern you? why do suddenly democrats get concerned with that? the idea the president is engaging in diplomacy is something that i've always thought the democrats engaged in and supported and then donald trump does it and suddenly he's criticized for it. >> i've been in these rooms. i'm assuming some of the panel have as well and probably you as well, congressman. there is always note-takers, interpreters, some kind of official record, and it's no accident that as soon as helsinki was over, we come home from that, and then there's the announcement that there is not going to be readouts from phone calls with foreign leaders. i agree with the instincts about being concerned about what's going on.