i understand that it was passed off and it is not part of the mueller investigation. but people are certainly discussing the links between what work michael cohen might have done on behalf of the now president of the united states of america. >> let's talk about it. when it's charged. about it right now, that moment -- >> i did say it was inappropriate. how did i turn into the devil. >> no one is calling anyone the devil. >> democratic devil. >> whatever kind of political -- >> don't wrap your own sfrau, woman, no one said that. >> you called me a blob. >> i did not. i was making a metaphor, who loves a ball of play dough, any color. jessica, i heard new the beginning, everyone heard you say not the right forum. as a journalist, perhaps not the right day of the week either. i don't think it would have mattered the forum, necessarily, we ask along with the news, is developing. then this becomes more of an editorial session inside the press corps, that's not a good