down and have exactly what president trump said. how are they conflicting. pete: this is why whether it's the outside counsel or special counsel you feel like you need somebody from the outside. maybe the inspector general can do it but feels like something more is needed. abby: when he was in the office he didn't write anything down. if it did happen it took place after the meetings took place. who knows what was said in that office if you weren't writing it at the time. still a lot of the questions remain we don't have the answers to. there is a lot of question and miscommunication it sounds like from one of the highest dentals in our government that should never be the case. ed: big questions overnight in california where the governor jerry brown has issued preeaster pardons for wait for it five illegal immigrants who are felons facing deportation. i remember him doing something similar around christmas as well. jerry brown. a very liberal governor out there. abby: something about the holidays. ed: he wants to show mercy.