together on this dak daca and immigration reform for phasion is a stretch. >> it is a stretch. there's a lot more that has blg to be talked about. disaagreements between republicans and democrats on this. but this was a fascinating meeting. >> shepard: it was. >> it was. almost an hour of being able to see a president really sit as the manager of a meeting where there was a civil conversation about fundamental disagreements. if you want to change the discussion, if you want to move it away from talk about your mental stability, this is the way to do it. >> shepard: the president was compromising, he was in charge, conciliatory, he was charming, happy, he was inclusive. it was wonderful. >> yes. it is what americans kind of hope washington, it's the way that americans kind of hope that washington works, there is a meeting where you can voice your disagreements and you can begin