other trade negotiations here. i believe it's usda. our responsibility if they grow it, we are selling it. >> they are pro-nafta, you want to see changes. you told the president don't rip it up. >> no, nafta needs to be modernized like anything 25 years ago. we think it would be bad policy if we withdrew. >> you told the president that? >> yes. >> >> um. >>um. brian: mr. secretary, who is the president you know? is he a guy who listens to what you are saying? >> absolutely. this president is a bold, decisive, focused decision maker but he also leaves a little door open in the back for his mind to be changed. he listens and i think the nafta discussion was a great example of that. >> are you looking forward to this today? >> i am, it's going to be a big day. brian: 7,000 people there. secretary of agriculture will do the introduction. i know the president values your insight. thank you. brian: coming up next hour alan dershowitz. maybe ainsley will sing.