by a private arbitrator. that ruling came last month. but daniels attorneys say the president has won nothing and ultimately the arbitration ruling could prove to be, well, frankly, unenforceable because the president didn t sign the nondisclosure agreement. it s an interesting story and one the white house would love to steer clear of. dana: they have another topic on their hands, and that s the tariff. do you think they ll go forward and that canada and mexico might be exempt? reporter: they re going to go forward, no doubt about that. we expect to hear about that raoeu around 3:30. i think the cutouts is what you re talking about, the carveout force canada and mexico are likely to happen. there s a caveat here. i think the president is talking about we can do that if we reserve the right to do that. some of that may have to do with the on going nafta discussion. we ve been talking about that for months now.
other trade negotiations here. i believe it s usda. our responsibility if they grow it, we are selling it. they are pro-nafta, you want to see changes. you told the president don t rip it up. no, nafta needs to be modernized like anything 25 years ago. we think it would be bad policy if we withdrew. you told the president that? yes. um. um. brian: mr. secretary, who is the president you know? is he a guy who listens to what you are saying? absolutely. this president is a bold, decisive, focused decision maker but he also leaves a little door open in the back for his mind to be changed. he listens and i think the nafta discussion was a great example of that. are you looking forward to this today? i am, it s going to be a big day. brian: 7,000 people there. secretary of agriculture will do the introduction. i know the president values your insight. thank you. brian: coming up next hour alan dershowitz. maybe ainsley will sing.