know that there is going to be a huge election at the end of this year where the majority in the senate and the house are up for grabs. and they believe -- they might have been unsure about trump in the beginning but they are not unsure about him now, tucker. there's no question as to whether or not who their allegiances -- who their allegiance is with, it's the leader of their party. if the president of united states and it's thehe agenda he's pushing. and steve bannon's for that agenda too. so why do anything to help #resistance, which is all about trying to delegitimize trump, and i think that's where steve made a big mistake with his talking to a very left-wing journalist who he shouldn't be talking to. >> tucker: that journalist is not very left wing, by the way. in point of fact. i don't think he is. >> do you think that this journalist is somebody who he should talk to in this manner in order to really try to harm the trump agenda? i i don't think it's smart.