rachel: in chocolate and everything. >> i didn't know when bacon wasn't cool. you are talking about one the oldest products. rick: you ask a dumb question. rachel: people saying low carb and sudden suddenly bacon and things that seemed like forbidden foods became suddenly allowable. >> i can tell you despite all of the healthy trends that have gone. in one constant that everyone has in their refrigerator has been bacon. everybody's substitute for a diet. i'm jewish and i own a bacon bar. you can understand. >> it's easy to buy. easy to make. >> you can't sky it up. pete: do you like it crispy? what's your perfect recipe for bacon. >> i like it thick. because i like to try it i prefer it a little bit under but can't get it krispie if you cut it as thick as i cut it you are not getting it crispy. rachel: i like thin and almost burnt. >> it varies. >> you like bacon bits