no attempt to actually hack into them. it was false on various levels. >> tucker: you and i don't agree on a lot of issues but i think we share the same concern about this story, american journalists are being manipulated for whatever reason by the intelligence community in the united states, and i'm wondering why after years of having this happen to american a journalists, they are allowing this to happen again. >> that's the thing i would reframe that a little bit. i don't actually think so much that journalists are the victims in the sense of that formulation that they are being manipulated. at best we can say is they are willingly and eagerlyat being manipulated. what you see is over and over they publish really inflammatory stories that turn out to be totally false and what happens in most cases? nothing. they get enormous benefits when they publish recklessly. they get applause on social media from their peers, they get zillions of retweets, huge amounts of traffic, they end up on tv.