to say we are going to raise a child as nonbinary, meaning we are not going to raise a child as male or female, which is something that the couple in canada is doing. >> tucker: there are legitimate i think medical situations and you just describe some of them. there's an open question and i would never deny that and you want to respond compassionately but that's not what this case is about. this case is about the idea that you get to choose what your sex's, which is a denial of biology and also i think is a psychotherapist he would agree, a cost to a child. if you say to a little kid i don't know if you're male or female, you decide, i don't think you are going to get a good outcome a lot of the time at all. that's what people have never done that in human history. >> nell: the person who is deciding to do this with their child up in canada, i spoke to them on the phone, the point that they are making is that this child is a spiritual being having a human experience, not a human being having a spiritual