>> i'm very sure about it.t. here's what i would say, tucker> the fact is, it's not that simple. we live in a global economy. we don't live in a simple equation where one person's wages go up and the others gomp down. it's not a zero-sum game. when you look at the impact that immigrants have, it is tremendous. this is something that people see not only here new york city, but all across new york state, as well. s in buffalo, rochester, even in places like utica.ci >> tucker: those are all places that are deeply in trouble, as you know, the middle class is dying. the middle class is dying in new york city as you may know. i think you follow this since you are on tv arguing on behalf of it. c let me ask you some questions. we have about 1.1 million people come here illegally every year. -- legally every year. what is the optimal number, how many want to let in the workers that you represent? >> i'm not an expert in the number of specific immigrants coming in. here's what i will tell you. these cities that you just