>> i fear clowns and spiders. >> i don't really like clowns. john: why would people fear clowns? margee: clowns have traits that are fundamentally upsetting. first they have these painted on expressions. big eyebrows but their face doesn't always match that said that creates a dissonance in our minds and we just don't really want to approach because we depend so much on being able to read out a language. john: these people in times square were not that unusual. lots of people fear clowns? margee: many people today are growing up with a clown is a monster. their first introduction to clowns is through a horror movie. john: in times square at least some people express more rational views. >> my biggest fear is drowning. >> i fear drowning and heights.