falling down the steps. john: drowning in falling down the steps, that does kill lots of people. 3000 drowning, maybe 12,000 died on stairs. and cars, 35,000. nobody said i get nervous about getting into a car. margee: it is very frustrating honestly. we worry about the wrong stuff. today we get in our car and we text and drive and we are not thinking oh my this is how it could end up being hurt. john: more than anything else. margee: that s when we should be sort of acting afraid. john: thank you. coming up the hysteria about crime. how many people have to die before we actually at? john: later in the show we will
i don t know it s just a thrill. there s something exciting about getting scared. it it boosts your adrenaline and you were screaming because you know it s not real. john: we found only one person who did not like it. why did you come here tonight? i don t know. i wish i never did. it s the scariest experience of my life. john: c. was the exception. most people like it, this place where you were? margee: people who are going to haunted house probably know they re going to enjoy it and want that type of experience. john: when you call it a haunted house you don t really think it s haunted. margee: i have the study at scare house and we measure people before, during and after they go through this experience to see how it changes them. john: would e-learning? margee: for those who do choose that it s benefiting them.
i fear clowns and spiders. i don t really like clowns. john: why would people fear clowns? margee: clowns have traits that are fundamentally upsetting. first they have these painted on expressions. big eyebrows but their face doesn t always match that said that creates a dissonance in our minds and we just don t really want to approach because we depend so much on being able to read out a language. john: these people in times square were not that unusual. lots of people fear clowns? margee: many people today are growing up with a clown is a monster. their first introduction to clowns is through a horror movie. john: in times square at least some people express more rational views. my biggest fear is drowning. i fear drowning and heights.
They rate their mood before and afterwards and afterwards they feel better. john: why? margee: you have a chemical cascade preparing her body to be strong and endorphins and dopamine and all these things are feeling good periods for some people that could be a draw too. john: i assume scare house was totally new but in the 17th century i think we have a picture the russians were doing something similar? margee: the precursor to the rollercoaster and e there you have it. we have been seeking that feeling forever. john: when we in the news business talk about fear we access about things that might kill us. crime, terrorism and we will talk about that later in the show but i was surprised in times square most people did not ring up physical threats. what do you fear? what do i really fear? failure is a big one.
And normally they pans. john: great, they had chicken doors? people paid to be that scared? why? margee kerr study sphere. she s a fierce sociologist at the university of pittsburgh peerage he works in the place in pennsylvania called scare house that s similar to blood manner and people pay because they want to be frightened? why? margee: our ancestors were those who had that drive to go out and explore new territories for new food sources and new mates and they were rewarded with survival. that s who we are. we want to go out and explore and feel that sense of anticipation because we know on the other side comes a lot of satisfaction and survival. john mackey be don t die. margee kerr research the science