focus or continue to focus on the wrong things, we won't get to real issues. won't solve any real problems. >> bill, it seems like she's jumping on the headlines this morning. the blockbuster news out of "the washington post" this morning that apparently there was a prisoner being transported along with freddie gray that day in baltimore. according to the police confidence, he could hear something going on. could see freddie gray, but it sounded like freddie gray was trying to injure himself. there's been a rush to judgment. now hillary clinton is out there talking about restoring trust, which is crazy because over half the country doesn't trust her. >> i think the point here is that it does need to be the police to have to defend themselves. seems like the first choice are doing things wrong, the police are the ones who need to then be put in check by either using body cameras or have some type of other supervision. the other thing is we're also talking about the suggestion of decriminalization. we're talking about the fact if the numbers don't add up the way