at 8:45. it took off at 8:45? if that is so, how long would you say they were in the air? we did have reports that it was 80 minutes in the air. >> that sounds about right from my knowledge of those air routes from barcelona to southern france. that's about a 400 mile stretch. they would have reached maximum altitude of 38,000 feet. that decent, worrying the distress call, we're told at just about 5,000 feet off the ground. also worrying -- the mother company of the german wings airline, is one of the most reliable airlines i've travelled on it hundreds of times. the most reliable airlines out there air bus, reliable, too. you've got to believe something bad happened very fast. >> we were getting information while you were talking, quick question for you, when do you think the first distress call