speaking yesterday, the governor said this. >> i have no clue if i would be a good candidate. i hope i would be. i think i could serve well as president, to be honest with you, but i don't know that either. >> this now, here in our new york studio, cakarl rove. you know the bush family very well. if governor bush runs, and i believe he will, because he's not the kind of guy that seeks the spotlight. you know, he's not -- he doesn't like the attention that much. to put himself out like that as he is, there must be a reason. that's -- like sherlock holmes used to do. >> there was a reason why he did this on sunday. michael putney, pullney, a longtime south florida broadcaster was retiring. governor bush had a longstanding relationship with him and asked as my final interview, i'd like to interview you. i'm not certain he was planning on saying these things. >> he's made some noises, so has his son and things like that. so i'm saying he's running for president. am i wrong? >> i don't know. i do -- i believe that he is tilting toward running, but