professor. they are both professors. same school it's like an independent film. one could be jeff daniels, the other could be philip seymour hoffman but he's dead. >> he did pay a lot of attention in virginia, but in other congressional districts he tried to knock off the chairs in those districts. he got beaten. he wanted the whole of virginia to have a grassroots operation. he went after chairmen in somebody else's district. that's something you don't do but he was not paying attention to the people who vote in primaries. >> and his top lieutenants were defeated, so he was left with no real grassroots presence and a lot of people said to him let bygons be bygones. make peace with the grassroots party. he didn't do that. if he didn't go with the strategy of going to war, his