battle is moving to a new front now. lawmakers from both parties and both chambers are trying to find common ground on a long-term plan. leaders from both the house and the senate budget committees getting together over bagels and coffee yesterday. we presume there was federal tax money available to pay more those bagels. republicans are pushing for entitlement reform, democrats are asking for tax increases on the wealthy, but there does not appear to be much optimism surfacing so far about a real compromise. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell telling the washington post, quote: if you're trying to look ahead to january and february, the issues will be the same, and the views will be the same, and it will be difficult to get an outcome. all of this as our national debt ticks ever higher, nearly $17 trillion right at this moment. let's talk about it with bob cusack, the managing editor of "the hill." after all of this shutdown drama and the brinksmanship over the debt ceiling, is anything going