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overall employment and underemployment rate up to 14.7% and unchanged a very bad number indeed. i think that reflects what people see around them and i don't think this helps the president very much. >> chris: mara, 7.8%. do you think that changes people's perception that well, maybe the economy is getting better. in. >> i think it can. but i agree with brit. t has to do with how people are feeling about their own situation. we have seen consumer confidence getting better. i would say one of the reasons that the president had been doing a little better recently until the debate was because not only did he have a good convention and the republicans didn't have a great one but also because people are paying down their debt. more people are feeling confident about the future. consumer spending is going up. there has been a little bit of uptick in the way people feel about the economy a little more optimistic. whether one month of jobs data is going to make a huge difference, i doubt it.

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