rogers, a former department of energy official. he was in charge of getting the money out the door to companies like solyndra, despite the push-back in this case from the office management and budget. he is a critical figure in trying to expedite the loan and getting the money out to the company. >> greta: two big questions. if steve wesley is smart enough to know it's a bad deal and he emails valerie jaret and this cost taxpayers more than 500 million, how come she's still at her job? >> big red flags. >> greta: why does she have a job? she's exclusive -- >> these are companies get the private money. so a company like solyndra comes forward and says, we have this great technology, but if we just got the seed money. >> greta: but she was warned! that's my first question. the second question, matt rogers who worked at the department of energy.