it's a basic economic fact argument. the jobs aren't materializing and the unemployment rate is staying stubbornly high and the inflation rate is stubbornly high and that's a real worry. we have factory orders back to where they were, in the height of the recession and we have the services sector looking at numbers that were just after the recession, and syme, this is not good. >> we're going backwards, so doubt about it. and i don't, biden, you know, this is not about, by the way, private equity. when i think job creators, i'm thinking of husband and wife owing a lawn mowing service and 12 employees, those are the people that created jobs and i think the policies and the threat from the administration have held back these kind of people. and i think the obama care-- >> it's not-- but it is part of the big line, they're trying to say, trying to blame what's going on. >> no doubt. >> on the private sector, maybe so. >> you blame them, but you punish everyone. the obama tax thing on