he had difficulty after he left us and went to guantanamo after he left. >> mr. rodriguez is totally wrong here. as fbi agents we are trained to deal with facts. ksm defied by us in early april of 2002. before even the outside contract torres hired by mr. rodriguez showed to the site. so these are the facts. >> bill: so he says though that you weren't on the site. you didn't know what the cia got out of zubaydah or bin al shibh and ultimately khalid sheikh mohammed you weren't on site. >> i was on site at the beginning. the fbi pulled out from the site. >> bill: where was the site. >> i cannot tell you that. >> bill: you were there in the beginning and who was present? what terrorist was present. >> zubaydah. >> bill: zubaydah was present and you were there in the beginning and the fbi and the cia were there together. >> yes. >> bill: at that point you weren't roughing him up.