there's a difference between people who belled in the free market and people who loot companies, leave behind broken families, broken towns and people on unemployment and i think that governor romney is going to have to hold a press conference and he's going to have to walk the country through the things they did at bain because in three or four cases they don't look like capitalism. they look like rich guys looting companies, taking all the cash and leaving behind the unemployed. that's not the kind of free market i want to be part of. i want to be in a free market where everybody has a fair chance. that doesn't mean you always win. there are times you lose, there are times you go bankrupt. that's fine if the person who's getting rich is also taking the risk and is also suffering some of the consequences. it's not fine if the person who is rich manipulates the system and gets away with all the cash and leaves behind the human beings. >> sean: all right. when we come back, we'll continue and have much more with former speaker of the house newt gingrich and including he got a pretty big