polls that show most polls show us we want out of there. sick of it most americans agree with me it wasn't worth the blood and treasure you could have done it another way. hindsight, i don't want to cheap shot anybody here. as i said, i was wrong. i relied on these people. they were wrong human beings make mistakes and that's that. we just made a mistake. an intelligent mistake. >> you are skipping around the fact that the surge succeeded. that the course of events in iraq that seemed to be underway was reversed and the situation ended up much more happily than or at least came to be a better situation than it appeared it was going to be and that those gains are what are at risk now if the pullout proves to be too soon. >> bill: absolutely. it's a balancing act. >> it is. but, remember this, a peaceful iraq allied basically with the united states in that part of the middle east is an