process. i think it takes time. i don't know he will be able to bring them around. it is not the kind of thing that happens overnight. >> eric: jonathan? >> we have stagnant job creationç the last three years. we see the president doubling down on a estimate laws didn't work in 2009 this time -- on a stimulus that didn't work in 2009. number one, whether they should be raising taxes in a weak economy. second, all of this saber rattling on tax increases by creating a lot of uncertainty and instability in an economy that is -- there's the the two things that are going to hold up this package. >> eric: some democrats are against it, what can break the logjam? >> i think he has to reach across the aisle and look outside of massive taxç increases on small numbers of