you -- it wouldn't be based on seniority anymore. the last hired, first fired anything. they were making real progress and now it's been snatched out of there by the senate. you got to be disappointed. >> well, i actually think that the legislature is going to be able to work this out. there is a tremendous amount of support for the concept of looking at quality instead of seniority as it pertains to layoffs and people across the state of ohio including teachers and parents are speaking out in favor of this. they know that the most important thing for kids is to have a great teacher in front of them. and so i have a lot of faith that they're going to be able to work this out. >> when they talk about making a merit performance based, what would that mean? >> that means that we are going to make decisions in the unfortunate cases of a school district having to lay teachers off, we're going to be making those decisions based on quality, so looking at evaluations, how effective are the teachers with their