i know one of the things you said you have to do with a trucking company is you have to start passing the rising gas prices on to the consumer. how are you doing that? >> actually, with the gas prices being so high, we are at a 40% fuel surcharge meaning on every dollar, we're adding $0.40 for transportation. warehouses and middle men do not eat up that cost. that cost is directly passed on to the consumer at the retail locations. >> so that's not good news for you and me and everyone else because now we're facing the high gas prices and now we're going to face more in, i guess, food or whatever you are transferring to us. dick, you also have a family-owned business. you say this is the worst recession since 1973? >> this is the worst one we've seen. we've been doing this 37 years and it's -- this is just incredible. >> now, i know that you put in a fuel charge, a surcharge, a couple of years ago before the gas prices started going up. what changes have you made since