lieutenant governor joins us live. also new numbers out this week showing the nation's gdp is shrinking and the four week unemployment average is rising. now fed chief ben bernanke says he is prepared to take the dramatic steps if the situation gets worse. so what exactly does he mean by that? joining us now is ed. great to see you again. we've been hearing a lot of negative talk coming out of the experts about the economic situation. one of the words that keeps on popping up is recession. question, first of all, they say that the possibility of a recession is increasing. do you agree with that? >> well, i do agree with that. the economy is not growing fast and the definition of a recession is two quarters in a row with negative gdp. let me put something in perspective as to what ben bernanke said yesterday. the government has throughout history, they have a goal. the goal is for the economy to