>> bill: obviously you don't think we are getting the bang for the buck securitywise if you are not spending the money. >> that's right. >> bill: who is the pinhead who put this up and wasted our money. >> it's been the contract that was in a strategy that was adopted many years ago. >> bill: bush did it? >> it needs another look. it's not working. >> bill: we see so much waste, that's what i'm concerned about. now, are you concerned about the southern border? have we cut down the illegal immigration coming through here in the border patrol says we have. are you happy with that cutdown or what's the status down there securitywise? >> look, the numbers are all going in the right direction. but here's what i'm concerned about. i'm concerned about the violence in mexico. >> bill: yeah, the drug wars. let's get to that for a second. >> yeah. >> bill: my audience wants illegal immigration stopped across the border is that being stopped across the border. >> the numbers clearly indicate that we are way down from illegal immigration of years ago. >> bill: is that because of the border fence or the recession? >> oh, i think it's a couple of things. it's not the border fence per