in the driver's seat. and cloudier comfort as head of the energy transportation and environment department at the german institute for economic research is a professor of energy economics and sustainability she says effective measures for climate protection free up enormous economic potential for modernization innovation and technological progress we need an intelligent framework she says to enhance these economic opportunities. to the show everyone let's start out with the big question that's on our minds right now what is our situation when you listen to the conference call of each of sounds like there's nothing we can do if we could start with you what do you think claudia we can do a lot but i'm quite optimistic that in poland they come together and work on concrete plans although it's not fast enough but a lot of countries that want to cooperate and we need that this allianz of