we had segregationist democrats who controlled and tried to keep black people from voting but most of the party did not go along with that. >> what can, or should, the current-justice department, under merrick garland, do? what can, or should, the current president joe biden do about this? because you don't think it's -- it's over. i mean, donald trump is the former president but you don't think this effort is over. >> no, i don't. it's obviously not over. all we have to do is listen to your show and anderson every night and what we put on the air and what we read in "the new york times" and "the washington post." look. what we ought to be doing, as journalists, particularly, we need to find out everything that happened in the trump presidency. in terms of its crimes against democracy, including the pandemic. homicidal negligence by a president of the united states. that figures in this, too. what was that homicidal negligence about and resulted in tens, hundreds of thousands of deaths? it was for his own political purposes. that's not nixon.