numbers. that -- in 2014, that problem was a quarter of what it is today. we are being overwhelmed in extraordinary conditions at the border. thousands and thousands of people over the week come to the border with their children or children alone and the border patrol facilities that are designed to have people come in and go through the book-in procedure, they're supposed to be in our custody for a very short time. they're being overwhelmed. so the conditions are what they are, because this unmitigated flow continues. >> are those conditions acceptable to you? >> they're not acceptable to anybody. but what is the alternative? the border patrol is required to take these people into custody, and put them in proceedings. the adult males and adult females that don't have children will be referred to detention at i.c.e. as quickly as possible. the families and children -- the children will be moved and transferred to the hhs shelter nearby. or somewhere in the country. and the families are all being released. and i'm sure that the border patrol is prioritizing the movement of these young kids and