so what we're seeing here exactly as jeffrey and ron have said, is that this attempt by conservatives, generally the republican party to narrow that, to exclude communities of color and that's deeply problematic for what we hope is an inclusive american democracy. >> jeffrey toobin, the court has ruled on the census case. we'll find out what they have decided and how that division is among the justices in just a moment. this is the administration, the commerce secretary wilbur ross saying we have the right to add a question to the 2020 census that asks, are you a citizen or not and we're doing it to better comply with federal voting rights laws. critics say this is a veiled attempt to intimidate non-citizens and depress response from especially hispanic households and that has an impact on money and representation in congress, et cetera. how big is this? >> well, it's potentially very