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it would do in a crash a report of what happened and this wasn't in it? why? >> that is a very good question. as peter knows when he was at ntsb if you have a witness in the cockpit you would want to interview him, you would want to document that in the report. i'm led to believe that that will occur going forward, but it was not in this initial report and it is a very good question. >> and so in the normal case, i would imagine, say the flight where they were successful in disabling this motor, the normal procedure, one would assume is that this gets reported and any time you get a problem like that in an airplane, wouldn't this somehow percolate upwards, this information, you would hope? >> that is a broader question. this was a safety of flight issue that they were not -- that did not make it to the flight managers to say, wait a minute, this plane, even though our overnight maintenance have said they repaired it, let's take it up for a check ride and make

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