times. i hear you. they all seem appalled the president has taken the word of an autocrat when it comes to the death of otto warmbier. >> listen, that's incredibly regrettable. whether kim jong-un knew about it, the fact remains that a young american student was kidnapped, captured, murdered by a dictatorial regime in north korea. i think the president should have slammed his fist down on the table on that one and said, look, we are going to hold people accountable and push to find an answer here. i do think he should have been stronger on that point. >> okay. on the reporting this morning for the times and the washington post, errol, the president's denial that he got involved in