under any circumstances at any time. >> how do you explain that guy who is not a trump guy, right, he was put in there by obama, and you were there a long time, people respected you there. him coming to a different conclusion? >> i can't explain why the process is so deeply impacted by politics. we all know, from the president's own statements, his absolute, very clear intention. the result that he want -- demanded from that investigation and that's, of course, the one they delivered. i can't explain to you why even now, as my team attempts to uncover the ig's own processes and policies and rules that should guide a fair and impartial process, we've had to sue them in federal court to get access to information that, as i understand, they are obligated to provide to the public. >> do you think the ig did what they did with your findings because of the president? >> i think the president had an impact on the ig's process.