liver thing going on here, the bread someone referred to as portuguese? >> prospero: yup, portuguese. but it's from madeira, that bread, that flatbread. >> anthony: south africa, depending on who i talk to, it's a completely different construct. to some people, it's whoever comes to south africa from anywhere else in africa and brings good -- along with them. but other people, it's all the good stuff from malaysia, east indies, there's the dutch, there's the english influence. >> andrea: well, there were so many different colonialists. it is a mishmash. >> anthony: what at this table is originally african and does that even have any meaning? >> dion: this wood is pine. [ laughter ] >> dinner guest: and us. >> anthony: i arrived in this country spectacularly ignorant. i will leave spectacularly ignorant. [ laughter ] ♪