at each other's throats and i'd love to see that resolved with a good trade agreement where china backs down and buys more of our goods. if that happens, i think the economy will be strong. the other factor, and this is where i think rana and i disagree, i strongly oppose some of the actions the fed has taken. i think they're sucking some of the oxygen out of the economy. i mean the latest -- i think almost everyone agrees the latest rate hike by the fed was a major mistake. of course the markets have voted on that with a 2,500 point decline. i do worry if the fed were to continue to raise rates, that could cause the very recession that we have a fed to help us avoid. >> well, you know, it's interesting because i think that the fed really has a delicate balancing act right now. even before the trade war, even before the trump administration, there was actually a big debate going on about why aren't we seeing more inflation. some people think we're not seeing more inflation because of how technology is coming into all different sectors. and that actually goes to the point about china.