the senators who are considering their vote. whether or not judge kavanaugh lied about his actiactivities a behavior over his younger days. that has to matter. this is not limited to whether they can find a witness to an assault that dr. ford experienced. the likelihood of them doing that is pretty nil. >> reportedly the drinking of brett kavanaugh might be overlooked at the urging of even some senators who said this really is not the measuring stick. how can that be in this investigation when on display was his demeanor. on display was how he reacted to the questions about chicago use and how relevant it might be to any alleged blackout or control. >> right. absolutely. we are looking at his truthiness in his testimony. i think on the one hand, can you say his testimony was