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i wouldn't want to be there. [ helicopter whirls ] >> anthony: who owns this land? can anyone really own it? who gets to use it? these are big questions that cut across traditional ideological lines out here where they have real meaning, not theoretical meaning. all this belongs to one man; this guy. bill galt. >> bill: okay, we're about a half mile from the confluence of rock creek and the smith river. >> anthony: galt ranch is a hundred thousand acres of grazing land, mountains, cliffs, and valleys. there's also some of the best trout fishing on the planet. >> david: bill, the water level on the creek looks good. >> anthony: this is bill's friend, the author and journalist david mccumber. they disagree on land use, a major issue. remember when you could do that

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