information -- donald trump jr. has made a big deal of saying, what she was saying didn't make any sense. none of that really matters. what matters is what he understood going into this meeting. he was led to believe, as you said, this was part of a russian government effort and that this attorney was a russian government attorney, whether she was or not, she denies she is. >> after having that information, his statement that was sort of a cover letter to the e-mail said, i accepted the meeting, based on that information. >> elizabeth, we've learned that the fbi was unaware of this meeting. what do you make of this entire situation? >> well, it's -- i can't understand why the fbi wasn't aware, but sooner or later, they would be aware because partly they may have been unaware because of false filings that were made by jared kushner and by paul manafort, not disclosing this to the government and jared kushner was -- in order to get top secret clearance, had to report all of his contacts and