say the sense of pay trichl, the only people disagreeing and being upset by it are experts, or highly educated folks who understand what civil liberties mean. >> yeah. go ahead, jeffrey. >> i'm not sure. i actually think i give sort of the american people a little more credit than that. i think people understand that the government shouldn't be deciding what sort of speech is permissive and what's not. i don't think that's necessarily an elite point of view. i do agree that flag burning does bring out the anti-free speech spirit in at lot of people. but i think this is a sufficiently core value that it's not a matter of income or education or age. i think most people get it. >> i think most people, however, if you put a poll out, most people would say the first amendment should be amended to