flat because they despise each other. >> it's supposed to be tongue in cheek, and maybe not so political. there was also a moment trump's jokes didn't land, as well. how did that go over in the room? >> from all accounts inside the roo room, there was booing and groaning when donald trump said hillary clinton was pretending not to hate catholics. there wasn't even any laughter at that point. it was sort of this uncomfortable silence broken by boos and groaning. i can't recall having reported on some of these dinners over the years, you know, this kind of reaction happening inside one of these al smith dinners and i think it is another example how vicious this am capain seascamps become on a night they're supposed to kick back, enjoy themselves, perhaps lighten up a little bit. they went for the jugular. both candidates did and frankly