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not be moved by it. >> it's both, though, right? a compelling speech, at the same time, of course she's trying to help hillary clinton. by the way, not just that, trying to bait donald trump, too, because the democrats know that it would only hurt trump more if he takes that bait and gets into a back and forth with michelle obama. >> probably won't. >> hasn't yet. >> fascinating. >> and also saying what hillary clinton can't. she needs to remain a presidential candidate running a seemingly, a presidential campaign and can't get into the back and forth on this with him and needs voices l s like miche obama to do it. you well know, it's about the map. had a hard map to begin with and every day is closing off options to 270 and has a really, really difficult pathway at this point. >> it matters more now. you got early voting. it's not like -- oh, another twist, and people will come back to him. some of these people are locking in decisions now. you could argue they are the most partisan, most decided but

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