i know that everything that i am doing to help people, i'm going to get the exact same aid, the same help, compassion, back from them. >> that's really cool. >> it's -- it's kind of a way of helping rebuild and coming together as a community. >> i mean, you know, if you've suffered a loss yourself, to be able to -- i mean, to have the strength to not be mired in your own loss but to reach out and help others, that's extraordinary. >> i really think it's more just what we have to do. at this point there's nothing we can do but move forward. and try to pick up the pieces and go with what we have, be thankful we're here, we're alive and we've got each other. and everything else really is just stuff. >> what do you think the greatest needs are right now? i mean, obviously people can donate to the american red cross. there's a 1-800 number, 1-800-red-cross, right? >> yes, or people can get to the red cross website, redcross.org, they can text, instructions for that online.