upper and middle class and upper class people. there will be a rise in taxes once the recovery rebounds. we will -- we will probably keep adding to the debt for a very, very long time and at some point i think in the far distant future we'll default on the debt or inflate our way out of the debt, create so much inflation it's easy to pay down the debt. we were bequeathed by mr. clinton a sound fiscal situation. this is not mr. obama's fault. he is not helpful but he inherited a terrible situation. mr. bush wrecked it. mr. obama inherited a bad situation and made it worse. >> we have a limited time left. there's a schizophrenia, the dow closed up today, two-year highs. rebounded powerfully since the depths of the recession and looking at the data numbers got unemployment at 9.8%.